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Hello!

Thanks for the welcome. Good to see we can come somewhere to do a bit of editing, etc. Without overt Wikipedia interference. Now, I'm wondering, are we filching some Wikipedia resources here? If so, we might want to filch a few more. I'd be interested in seeing wikipedia's article on Martian Spherules moved here. As I recall I added a little to that one. Martian Spiders might be nice too, seeing as I wrote pretty much the entire stub on my own. Don't know if it's been edited up by anyone else much since then. Of course I don't know who "owns" the content. My assumption might be Wikipedia. Though I did write the majority of the initial spiders article on Wikipedia, since nobody else had. I'm just wondering what other articles might be good? Butterfly Nebula, NGC 6302 and a few others like Bipolar Nebula, Planetary Nebula, Protoplanetary Nebula, etc. Of course if it's not kosher to take articles wholesale, then I can't recommend it, I suppose... Granted I've contributed a bit of material to several of the above and even fixed up the Butterfly Nebula namespace in Wikipedia with a disambiguation page (seeing as several nebulas have had the moniker "Butterfly Nebula" in the past, and Wikipedia seemed to have not sorted them out). Don't know if it's still there or not, since folks occasionally have a penchant for reverts or otherwise editing out good revisions. Mgmirkin 18:38, 23 February 2007 (GMT)

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Revert

Seems you missed one. Plasma_redshift is still vandalized. May wish to revert it as well. Mgmirkin 19:23, 23 February 2007 (GMT)

Assuming Galaxy formation vandalism also needs a revert... Mgmirkin 19:29, 23 February 2007 (GMT)

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Thoughts on Vandalism

I see you've been busy reverting more vandalism... Why do folks seem to think it's OKAY to vandalize, when in fact it's quite the OPPOSITE. Freedom of speech does NOT include vandalism, shouting "Fire!" in a crowded building, inciting violence/hatred/mistrust/misinformation.

Anyway, hopefully this won't deter efforts or curtail free speech. However, is there any way to curtail vandalism while still leaving this a FAIRLY open community?

My suggestion might be a partial limitation on who can commit final changes. Don't know how finely grained of security and permissions the wiki project has/uses.

I'd be tempted, if possible, to make the following changes: Registration by request/approval process (IE, someone declares who they are and why they want to be able to edit, and will take responsibility for their own action and be in some way identifiable to moderators; no anon/anonymous/asshole login names, & someone would perhaps have to verify the user is who they say they are)? Registration/approval confers commit privileges. Whereas unregistered/anonymous users' edits are "moderated." IE, they can make suggested edits, but someone would have to review their edits to make sure they're not outright vandalism. Obviously, registration/approval is the preferred methodology, as it hopefully guarantees things are on the up-and-up, or above boards, as it were.

I don't know if these are feasible implementation suggestions or not (don't know if edits can be "moderated")? It seems like if someone wants to edit, they should register and be heard/seen. If someone doesn't want to register, they should be fine with being moderated (IE, edits don't show up unless someone who's registered and/or a moderator approves it). Obviously if a user registers, then vandalizes, the user would be warned, restricted or banned, depending on severity and guidelines in place for administrative processes (unless it's a dictatorship, in which case, you get final say; w00t!).

Just my thoughts on a fairly equitable way of dealing with vandalism while still maintaining openness. Also, don't know the capabilities/limitations of the wiki system's administration/registration/user privilege system itself. Mgmirkin 20:31, 27 February 2007 (GMT)


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Suggested Articles

Was just thinking perhaps we should include some more articles on a few subjects, analogous to what's on Wikipedia:

People:

Processes:

Other Fun/useful stuff:

  • Plasma lamp/Plasma globe (Makes a good point of reference when looking at certain artists' conceptions of CME's, Solar Wind, Solar Flares, Geomagnetic Storms, Birkeland Currents, etc., or just when talking about filamentation in plasma.)

Mgmirkin 21:10, 27 February 2007 (GMT)

Also, should we combine Plasma Universe with Plasma Cosmology? Inevitably they talk bout similar things and could probably be integrated. I'd tend toward plasma cosmology, as it would encompass talking about the plasma universe, as well as man's place in it, etc. A slightly broader topic, in which the plasma universe could be a major sub-topic. Mgmirkin 20:18, 12 March 2007 (GMT)

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Phishing?

It seems that a user at (71.57.90.96) has repeatedly tried to have my login password changed, or is spoofing e-mails from plasma-universe.com... I received a load of spam "pasword change request" e-mails in my e-mail today. I'm still counting how many (appx 30-ish, when all was said & done)... It was around 10 am. I suggest that if it wasn't you, that IP address be blocked from the system, since it's likely a hacker trying to gain a backdoor into the the wikipedia to post fraudulent revisions under my name or others' names. Is there a way to lock out password requests if more than say 3 are made within the course of an hour? IE, max passwordrequestsperhour=3? So people can't irritatingly spam password request e-mails and such? Thankfully, it doesn't appear that my pasword was ACTUALLY changed, as I was able to log in as usual (don't worry, I didn't click on any links or anything, so I don't think they can snoop my password, etc...). Just thought you might want to know this is going on, if you're not aware. It can't send changed password anywhere but the e-mail address that was originally registered, right? So, even if it was changed, it could only come to me...? Have included a copy og the e-mail text, for reference, minus personal info. Mgmirkin 02:05, 12 March 2007 (GMT)

  • "Someone (probably you, from IP address 71.57.90.96) requested that we send you a new Wikipedia login password for www.plasma-universe.com. The password for user [deleted personal info] is now [deleted personal info]. You should log in and change your password now. If someone else made this request or if you have remembered your password and you no longer wish to change it, you may ignore this message and continue using your old password." Mgmirkin 02:07, 12 March 2007 (GMT)
  • How completely did you block (71.57.90.96)? I seem to have gotten another password request time-stamped 3:00-ish... Not especially fazed by it. I could care less, bugger's not getting my password. & he can bugger off, for what I care. ;o] *yawn* The joys of mass-delete features in e-mail clients. *wink* Does he not realize that even if he clicks 'change password' it won't bar me access. Yeah wikipedia software is smart enough to block vandals' efforts to thwart regular users. Ha! So, my password is completely safe, and I can still use it without having to even intermediately use a temporary password and change it back. What a waste of space this guys is. Hehe. Ohh well. Kids will be kids, apparently. Mgmirkin 00:13, 13 March 2007 (GMT)
  • Please block the following @-hole IP addresses (more useless spam that does ABSOLUTELY nothing):
75.126.48.148 (sent me about 20 new passwords, none of which am I required to use, so the effort is wasted completely, and I simply use my old password just fine.)
85.195.119.14 (sent several)
85.195.119.22 (this one has sent a slight volume as well)
85.195.123.22
85.195.123.25 (sent several)
85.195.123.26
85.195.123.29
  • In fact, you could probably block 85.195.119.(all) and 85.195.123.(all) and eliminate the problem altogether. ;o] Seeing as those seem to be the overarching addresses. Seriously, what a boring nuisance attempt (seriously, it does nothing, doesn't even keep me from logging in; what exactly do they think they're accomplishing with this? Whatever it is isn't working). Mgmirkin 16:26, 13 March 2007 (GMT)
  • Apparently a bunch of meat/sock puppets. Mgmirkin 16:28, 13 March 2007 (GMT)
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